We’ve all heard the expression, “Another day, another dollar," but probably not within the context of politics.
If your house is like mine, you are receiving 2-3 calls per day from some candidate or political committee asking for money, or from a blocked or unknown number. And there’s no relief from your mail because not a day goes by without an envelope (or three) from the Presidential, Senatorial and Beacon Hill candidates … or some committee. And, have you checked out all the political ads on the websites you visit – all with an easy-to-do donate button to the smiling candidate? Very convenient.
The pols tell us that the Nation is bankrupt and the economy is bust, but they keep asking you for money, and the more you give, the more often they ask. And then they use your money to tell you how well they have performed, and how dangerous their opponent would be, based on a declining sense of honesty, integrity and civility. It’s as though they really do believe that “We the people” are not especially smart, or paying attention, or that we have the collective attention span of gnats, and even shorter memories.
And have you wondered about all those fund-raisers? Who is attending these lavish affairs, and what do the attendees expect in return for putting up to $40,000 per seat just to hear their candidate bash their opponent? More importantly, how likely is this helping you and me to make it in America in 2012, or our grandchildren in 2025?
Speaking of fund raising, a report in yesterday’s news indicated that President Obama will soon be holding his 200th fund-raiser, compared with George Bush (84), Bill Clinton (70), George H.W. Bush (24), Jimmy Carter (25) and Ronald Reagan (3) in their re-election years. That’s almost three times as many as Clinton or as many as his predecessors combined. Forget about Reagan. And, he’s not done. In true Democrat spirit, reports claim that the Obama campaign is spending more than they are raising, so they are adding even more fund raisers. So much for leading, let alone governing.
So here’s the question – “Why is it taking Obama so much time raising enough money to convince voters that he is doing such a great job?” Shouldn’t his excellent performance and well-earned second term be self-evident by now? Or, does money talk louder than performance? If Obama claims he’s doing a great job loud enough and long enough, will you eventually believe it enough to give him four more years?
And, before you complain about the Republicans and their extensive fund raising (to which I will probably agree), let me simply add that the more that Obama spends trying to convince America that he has done a good job or that Mitt Romney is a flawed pretender, the more money that Romney must raise and spend to rebut the charges and offer his own. Sadly, we saw what happened to John McCain in 2008 when he agreed to campaign funding limits and Obama refused. As a result the system has clearly devolved into a “political arms race” in which cash is king. It’s a process we cannot afford, either financially or emotionally.
… And, it has co-opted and corrupted our government.
But this is where we are. Still, I believe that elections should be reasonably straight-forward, limited pretty much to two objective and one subjective measures (although I am eager to hear more):
- Did the incumbent keep their promises upon which voters decided?
- Have their policies produced positive results and made America stronger/better?
- How confident are you with this President as leader of America’s future?
And yet, what are the candidates talking about? Are they talking about job creation? Are they describing how they will reduce the debt or balance the budget? Or, are they attempting to distract us by making unaffordable, unkeepable promises to specific ethnic/racial/victims' groups, as if we are not a United States of America, but a divided land of hyphenated Americans? They’re talking about a war on the wealthy, a war on “women’s health,” a war on the Catholic Church, and a war on this and a war on that etc. It actually feels like a “war du jour” – and it is exhaustingly un-American. Is this what we want?
It’s long past the time for We The People to take charge.
Let’s suppose that you are a share holder of a powerful international organization whose interim CEO’s term is expiring. The board asks you and the other shareholders to participate in the selection of the next CEO, a critical responsibility. The choice is between the interim office holder and a candidate recommended by a search committee. Your first job is to identify the objectives and direction of the organization, and develop a go-forward plan including a blunt analysis of its strengths, weaknesses opportunities and threats. Your second task is to describe the skills, talents, qualities, needs, vision, experience etc. of the ideal person best able to lead the organization into the envisioned future. Finally, you will decide as a group if the interim leader has earned the right to continue, or if the organization would be better served with a change.
And, all of this must happen in fewer than 90 days.
We are the people and we must do our job to become better informed, and not lazily fall prey to deceptive and demeaning ads as our information sources. After all, there are lots of politicians … but only one America, and right now America is depending on We The People to do the right thing.
So, what are you going to do?
Concerned Citizen
11:21 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Jim,
I don't know if money talks louder than performanance, but Barack Obama is hoping that it does, because his performance has been abysmal. I haven't seen the country in more of a funk than it has been in the last few years. Pessimism is everywhere you turn. Mitt Romney may not be the cool, charasmatic figure that Obama is, but I'd sacrifice some "cool" for someone who has a history of creating jobs and understanding economics. The news today that Romney has picked Paul Ryan for his running mate has me full of hope for the furure of America. Paul Ryan is a brilliant, salt-of-the-earth American, who I believe will be the boost Mitt needs to get elected in November. Good-bye Obama/Biden; hello Romney/Ryan!
Jim Hatherley
2:27 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Thanks, Concerned Citizen, and I definitely agree with you about Paul Ryan. In choosing Ryan, Romney has made this a very clear cut election. You either believe that our rights, freedoms and liberties are derived from nature and from God, or you believe that they are derived from government (which can also take them away). You either believe that as a Nation we must live within our means, or that it is not immoral to spend and borrow and spend and boprrow even more, and leave all the accumuling debt for our children and grandchildren. You either believe that we are the land of the free, or the land of the free stuff. No weaseling now. Were it up to the people selecting a new CEO in the blog above, there would be no doubt that Romney/Ryan will be elected. However, watch the Democrats spend hundreds of millions of collars trying to make Americans believe that these two accomplished and decent people are evil and scare people that they will take away their free stuff if they are elected. Time for a change. Hopefully the voters across the Country understand this far more than the voters in Massachusetts have shown over the years.
Mike Kelly
11:45 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Oddly enough, the banner ad on this page is a contest for 'Dinner with Barack" a contest which you can enter by making a contribution or entering and not making a contribution. Your airfare is included if you are a winner, but you will have to pay the taxes on the $4800 opportunity to have dinner with the President.
Jim Hatherley
2:16 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Mike, have you been listening to the speeches by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan over the past two days? They are very clearly spelling out the principles and values of America that will be decided in this election. We will all know in November if America will remain the land of the free or just another failling land of the free stuff. I cannot believe that Americans will give up on America - even in Massachusetts.
Concerned Citizen
4:46 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Americans are waking up to the extreme left wing agenda of Barack Obama. He is like no Democrat president we have known. His ideology is dangerous for the future of our country. Moderate Democrats are leaving his camp. There is no reaching across the aisle with Obama a la Clinton/Gingrich. We are starting to see Democrats breaking away from the Obama agenda in the Brown/Warren race. Democrats, such as Ray Flynn and Konnie Lukes, are supporting Scott Brown. We want bipartisanship, not left wing radicalism.
Paula Leva
8:28 am on Monday, August 20, 2012
What kinds of " left wing radicalism" has Barack Obama perpetrated? I agree that he hasn't kept all of his promises. He kept Guantanamo open and the economy hasn't rebounded as we would have hoped. He has proposed job creation bills that are stymied in the House due to Republican obstructionism. He could have ended the Bush era tax cuts but in trying to be " bi partisan" he extended them. Not reaching across the aisles? He spent the first two years, doing just that and making a fool of himself.
Moderate Democrats leaving the party? Konnie Lukes and Ray Flynn have a long
history of calling themselves Democrats but voting for and supporting Republican candidates! my favorite slogan is Scott Brown's " he's for us" and the fact that most supporters like him because he's independent and bi- partisan. Look at his voting record. His votes have supported Republican issues 93% of the time. What has he actually done for us? At least Elizabeth Warren fought some of the power brokers in Washington DC and established the consumer advocacy bureau which has already effected rebates to credit card customers due to faulty bank practices. The real threats to the American people are the distractions from greedy corporate practices created by these stupid political campaigns intended to convince us that one party can change the course of this country!
Cynth House
11:25 am on Monday, August 20, 2012
Paula, here is a link to check the voting records of all of the Senators during the 112th congress. It's so hard to sort through the information that gets thrown out there but this is a link to a public government record: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/112/senate/members/
Scott Brown has voted with the Republican party 66% of the time. From what I could tell it is the second lowest "party-line" type of voting record in the whole Senate. I'm always interested in hearing both sides of a situation and so disheartened by the "Win no matter what the cost." political attitude from both sides. I have been impressed with Scott Brown because I believe he considers us as Americans, not Republicans or Democrats. (as noted through his speeches and his actions) I hope he continues to do so and will not be swayed by the tremendous pressures of politics and media.
Concerned Citizen
12:26 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Sorry for spelling errors first post. Should read -- performance*, charismatic*, and future*
Dave Lenane
5:20 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Jim, I'm not sure yet who I will vote for. I'm a Republican, but I will vote for the best person. We always say Massachusetts is a Democratic state, and that's because we always vote by how we are registered....mostly. So how can "We the People" complain when the people we send to Congress do the same damn thing.
Campaign spending is a mess! But who's going to fix it? It's all about PAC's and special interest groups. I honestly believe that most politicians start out on the straight and narrow. But when they realize the incredible amount of money it takes to get elected, they feel they have no choice but to take the money and deal with the consequences later. Of course then the people that gave them the money come calling after they are elected....and we all know the rest of the story!
Jim Hatherley
6:24 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Dave, may I say respectfully that if you are a Republican it's because you have a philosophy of government that is inherently incompatible with the Democrat Party, especially the Democrat Party of 2012. You know what you will do and I hope that you encourage all the unenrolled people I was writing about a few weeks ago to do the same thing. You should not even have to think about it, otherwise you would be registered as Unenrolled.
As to the campaign spending issue there are a lot of things that could be done, one of which is to limit the campaigning time to one month. Tis would also limit the numbers of false, misleading ads that prey on lazy voters as their information "sources".
David Nolta
6:45 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Vote for Obama, Dave!! He cares more about the working man! And woman! And child! Ooops, is that off-topic? Sorry.
Dave Lenane
7:13 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Maybe so Jim, but I won't do it just because he is a Republican. I like Romney...I know little of Ryan. I don't hate the President or any politician. I'm just not a fan of politics.
As to your idea about 1 month for Campaigning...I like it! It'll never happen though. And who do we turn to to propose Campaign reform? Seems silly to bring it to a politician whose livelihood depends on being re-elected!
Thanks Jim!
Joe Rizoli
7:42 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Let's get something straight here. Lets stop this Americana BS. The USA is in deep do do. Our foreign policies are completely out of step with what our Founders wanted Jim, sorry but prove me wrong here.
We should NOT be involved in Europe's wars and in particular being the big brother to Israel in her apartheid defense of insanity.
ANY candidate, be it Obama or Romney, Democratic or Republican, that supports the indiscriminate insane bombing of Iran because they THINK Iran has nuclear weapons is beyond INSANE. NO WARS, yes, I am screaming this, NO WARS should be started because you THINK a nation has nuclear weapons. Romney and the Democratic party are INSANE for thinking these people in Iran are just nothing people. They are people like you or me, have kids, go to school, have their own problems in life and are just people. The Boston Globe today had an article about Israels wanting to bomb Iran, COMPLETE INSANITY. Dave Nolta where are you on that one? Or are you another warmonger hypocrite fighting the the rights of illegal immigrants but when it comes to others around the world who are innocent you hide.
SHAME on all of you for being brain dead as to our foreign policy. Don't give me the Founders crap because the FOUNDERS condemned any foreign wars...PERIOD......These wars will bankrupt our country, not illegal immigration, not welfare, not anything else. The war machine as backed up by the warmongers in Washington are out of control.
Joe Rizoli
Rob Penzke
2:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Wow, something we both agree on. Never thought I would say that Joe.
David Nolta
7:51 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Joe, You already know where I am on that one. Like President Obama, I was against the war in Iraq--perpetrated by the Republican administration which lied to the American people and which cost us the lives of American soldiers and innocent Iraqi people (including children--by the thousands), and STAINED the honor of our great nation. I take it you agree?
David Nolta
7:57 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
And Joe, if you don't stop saying that I am pro-illegal, I am going to start spreading the rumor, which may or may not be true, for all I know, that your girlfriend is a skunk--a real skunk, an ACTUAL skunk, with a white stripe down her back. And it's the skunk who has all my sympathy.
Rob Penzke
2:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Too funny, I almost fell out of my chair!!
Jim Hatherley
8:12 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Joe, you sound like Ron Paul which is not a bad thing. Frankly, we have been carrying Europe and Korea's baggage for far too long. And, fighting in the mid East is a losing proposition as well in my view. But I bring you back to my blog. America is depending on you to do the right thing. So, what are you going to do>
David Nolta
8:18 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Sounding like Ron Paul is sometimes a bad thing. For example, he and his cronies misrepresented the effects of nationalized health care, making outrageous, fear-mongering claims about the disaster that would occur if everybody were insured. That was dishonest, and a bad thing, and please don't say it's off-topic--you just mentioned him.
Jim Hatherley
8:34 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
David, good to see you again ... thanks for your comment. And c'mon, saying he sounded like Ron Paul was a compliment because Paul had some good ideas, He also had some bad ones ... they all do. We know this. But I wrote this blog before the announcement of Paul Ryan, which only crystalizes the point of the blog even further. From a prior response you are apparently voting for Obama. Does that mean that you see America as the land of the fee stuff and not the land of the free? Does this mean that you see freedom and liberty as derivatives of the government, which can take them away, as opposed to inalienable rights? Are you oppposed to fee enterprise? Do you buy into the concept that small business people do not build their own businesses,; that intelligent people don't earn their own grades; that skilled people do not develop their own skills? Doi you really believe that equal opportunity includes equal results? If you do, there is no need to debate the issues.
Jim Hatherley
8:56 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Joe, this is not really on the topic, but what makes you think this is so contraversial? I think that we need to go back to the basics of insurance. It is not to pay for first dollar coverage, it's supposed to be catastrophe coverage. To that end, policies should have high deductibles, meaning that when you go to the doctor you actually have to ask what the treatments cost, and why you need them. Unless you are paying for your treatment, you don't care that they cost and care even less - this needs to change.
The concept of the illegals is way off track here, but to me it is pretty basic, "what part of illegal alien" is confusing?
But you might want to try - at least once - to post in on the blog that I spent a lot of time putting together. If nothing else it would make me feel good.
Ron Goodenow
9:36 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Come on Jim, can't you see that this hate monger is doing to you what some of us are trying to stop? Why dignify this ranter? Don't appeal to your feelings. He doesn't give a toonerville trolley about that. Appeal to Patchworld to stop him permanently. Then we'll all feel better -- and the world will be a tad safer for the likes of you. Which is really fine with me..
David Nolta
9:11 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Jim, I like your temperament. But I don't like this either-or framework. I think President Obama does represent us in a way that Mr. Romney never can--and I don't think Romney has any intention of trying to see things from any but the most privileged perspective. I myself see the world as so much more complicated than "Democrat=free stuff, compassion and public programs" versus "Republican=hard work, inherited money and private sector." I would even go so far as to say that President Obama is uniquely qualified to understand what a majority of Americans are up against in these difficult times--and NOBODY can convince me that he didn't take on a nearly impossible and (to be perfectly partisan, as your interesting blog is partisan) Republican-created economic mess of gargantuan and UNPRECEDENTED proportions, nor that he hasn't worked hard to improve things for working Americans and for the world. I think the terms of the discourse must always be questioned--that traditions we love harbor a lot of terrible prejudices and questionable practices. Do you ever wonder, Jim, what it would be like if you had not been born as you were? Or if certain opportunities had not been available to you? Quite a few people on The Patch repeat that irritating adage, "Life is not fair". But isn't it the very purpose of life to help to make it, even if only in little ways, fairer? Isn't that really what America has always stood for? A fair shot, with the resources and responsibilities we all share?
Jim Hatherley
9:49 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
David, thank you for the compliment on my temperment. My wife will be happy. However, here is the fallacy. People like me grew up in the Boston projects. We hustled newspapers, worked hard in school, paid our own education, got a job and kept it, paid our bills and taxes, got married and stayed married, had children and pad for them to attend college, owned a home, saved some money, made a life. Inherited wealth - not a chance. I refuse to allow any Democrat to tell me that this is a privileged life. I have no guilt. Like everyone else I was dealt a hand. It was imperfect but I played it to the best of my ability. I did not depend on government, I depended on the face in my mirror. We need to get back to this way of thinking instead of thinking that government's job is to make everything fair for everyone. It's up to us to do ... or don't.
David Nolta
10:16 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
So you and I, Jim, have a LOT in common. Not the Boston projects, but one of five children of a public school teacher in Detroit, and no inheritances, needless to say... Now imagine what it would have been like to be born a different color, or without a supportive family, or with some other problem which entailed exclusion... Guilt is not the issue--but the betterment of the whole country is. As for government, I think it's better for me if there are programs which support the opportunities of my neighbors who are less fortunate, just as I think taxes are for the roads and libraries I use, the schools that educate my own as well as my neighbors' children (it's BETTER FOR ME if they are educated), the police and fire and the nation's infrastructure (Ms. Warren is quite intelligent about this...) etc. Government couldn't make everything fair if it tried (did Affirmative Action "solve" the residual problems of race-bigotry and slavery, or the even longer centuries of the repression of women?), but the government of which I am a part governs better when it strives to serve ALL people better.
arthur
9:36 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Jim, one comment on insurance - individuals do need to question what treatment is, what it cost and why but disagree with high deductables. Individuals shouldn't be penalized because of cost for routine care. Governance needs to be applied to the Providers who are really whats driving costs. I have excellent insurance, can't tell you how many ridiculous tests I have had in the past year because 'my insurance will cover it'. Providers are now like any service industriy and encouraged to keep their billable hours up. Nobody is asking the provider why they order tests,. The patient shouldn't be the only governance.
Jim Hatherley
9:54 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Arthur, perhaps a small point but the major component of medical cost is utilization. When medical care costs zero or a small co-pay, people increase their utilization. We need to get back to not running to the emergency room for every little issue because there is no financial accountability. As to governance, there are so many statistics of tests/treatments by medical provider that exceptions are easily identified for investigation.
Jim Rizoli
9:36 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
David....You would think by your comments about "fairness" you were on our side.
Is it fair that people drive on roads they didn't pay for? Is it fair that people eat food they didn't work for? Is it fair that people drink water from a well they didn't pay for? Fair is people paying for the things they have with money they worked hard or. As it is now, the only thing we are getting is the bill.
The only "fair" shot we Americans want is not to be taken advantage of.
Jim@cciile.com
David Nolta
9:46 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Where did your money come from? Where do your rights come from? The community. And it's my money, too, as you say. A lot of people work harder than, by your own admission on this very site, you work, and yet, they will never have enough. And they are just as American as you are. "We" and "They"--that seems to be all you know. So misguided, and dangerous even to yourself.
Jim Hatherley
6:42 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
David, very interesting. We have a different view of the world. I am tired of being made to feel guilty for what i have accomplished, especially given from where I began. Government is not the answer, it is the problem. It strips people of their dignity, makes them dependent on government, and ultimately creates an unaffordable welfare state. It's time to demand more of people, not because we are mean spirited but because people can deliver much more than government expects or is willing to accept.
Myd Nevins
7:41 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
You also have to realize that alot of that is because the majority of the population don't really take an interest or participation in politics whether its on the local or national level unless its just complaining about it. You rarely see average Americans in office in any level. You see career politicians instead. There's a divide.
Concerned Citizen
6:42 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Every decent person tries to help others who need a hand, and American society has many good programs through government, religious organizations, and charities, which aid people in their time of need. The problem occurs when people remain on these programs longer than they require them and become lazy. They lose their work ethic and start to feel entitled to things they haven't earned. I'm not referring to people who are disabled or mentally ill and may always need government assistance through no fault of their own. In fact, I believe that these people get short-changed, because health care dollars are spread so thin and often go to groups who don't deserve them.
I read President Obama's book, "Dreams of my Father." His mother was very eccentric and not always a responsible parent. His father was a womanizer who fathered many children with different women and failed to support them. Despite that, President Obama was loved by his maternal grandparents and well educated while living in Hawaii. He attended two of the finest colleges in our nation. He has been given much by this country. I disagree that he represents us in a way that Governor Romney never can as David states above. I find it interesting that David knows Governor Romney's innermost thoughts and perspectives. Mitt Romney is a fine decent man who cares deeply about "all" the people of this country, and he will be a much better president than Barack Obama has been.
Concerned Citizen
6:42 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Mitt Romney actually knows how to create jobs and put the middle class back to work. And Mitt Romney knows the self-worth gained from earning a paycheck every week.
Jim Hatherley
7:41 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Thanks for adding to the conversation, Concerned Citizen. There is an old adage about giving a person a fish and teaching a person how to fish. Unfortunately, the Democrat agenda for too long has been to expand the number of government sponsored fishes, so many and for so long that fishing skills have either been log forgotten or deemed too hard compared with just getting in line for your daily fish.
This is what has happened in America since the Johnson Administration. Making it worse, of course, is that when concerned citizens raise the issue they are accused of being something ending in ..."ist".
We have had 50 years of trying to affirmative action and food stamp our way to "fairness". It has not happened because the government has not also - broadly speaking - required that the affected groups have a responsibility to use public assistance as the fuel to propel themselves back into the game and become self sustaining, productive members of society. For all the good intentions, these programs always get larger, and become a bottomless politcal money pit. This is where we are today.
And that brings us back to the question ... who is going to lead us back onto the right track? I know that you are supporting Romney but I am hoping that others weigh in as well - whatever they think.
Joe Rizoli
6:42 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Jim Hatherly, please make known to Mr Goodenow, whether that is his real name, that nobody on this list appreciates being called a "hate monger" .I would ask that his comment be seriously looked at as a character assassination of myself and not flowing the policy of Patch to be civil to respectful to each other. Saying someone is a hate monger because their opinion differs than yours is not the noble way to go here. I make a post about my daughter getting her teeth fixed and this guy hits me with being a "hate monger"? Please enforce the rules here for your own blog Jim.
Joe Rizoli
Myd Nevins
7:38 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
As said before, you developed that reputation on your own. You sustained that reputation. Your furthered that reputation. You live with the consequences.
Joe Rizoli
6:43 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
David needs to learn that even though he seems to be so concerned about people to the point that he gets offended when they are called "they" that he forgets that sometimes even Jesus Christ refereed to PEOPLE as "dogs".
Mat_15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mat_15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
My point, we would never think that in the overall look at things Jesus felt people were "dogs" but that society sometimes allows people in life to get to points of living that make the word acceptable to prove a point. So basically David we certainly can use the words "THEY" in our conversations about those you talk about.
I personally won't go that far as Jesus but they feels OK with me. You are going have to get over it David.
Now as to this great sin of a comment David N said:
>>Where do your rights come from? The community>>
Last time I looked David those rights are inalienable rights. . Do you know what that means David? It means IN ALIENABLE coming from GOD. You comments are certainly out of step with our Founders Documents, Our Founders themselves and a high School diploma.
http://www.inalienable-rights.org/
The US Declaration of Independence states that God Himself bestowed our rights and liberties upon us. The entire American political experiment is based on that unique premise>>
Joe Rizoli
Jim Hatherley
7:29 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
I cannot help but feel disappointed. My goal is always to put out thought provoking essays that expand the public conversation about the important political issues of the day. Instead too many comments have devolved into personal attacks that ultimately shut it down.
So, let me try to re-load the thought process. I have put you in the position of a shareholder deciding whether the interin CEO meets the leadership, vision, and achievement skills to take the organization forward, or if a new CEO with more different experience and talents is needed.
America is demanding that you step up and do the right thing. So, what are you going to do? Hopefully I will begion hearing from new people who are willing to weigh in without fear of being verbally assaulted for their opinion.
Michael Gelbwasser
7:40 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Folks, please stay on topic. This topic is "Does Money Talk Louder Than Performance?" Please limit comments to this topic.
Jim Hatherley
7:50 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Michael, thank you for this. Ron, having just written how disappointed I was that certain people were co-opting my blog with their persona agendas and not the issue that I framed, you proceed to continue on. I understand that you have an agenda, but I see this as trespassing on my conversation with people about the political scene. My suggestion is that you delete that post or re-post it on the other thread that is out there.m
Jim Rizoli
12:05 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Concerned Citizen...How does Mitt Romney "create" jobs when all the jobs have gone oversees?
If ANY politician wants to create jobs they have to close down free trade and we as a country have to start manufacturing all the products we use here.
It's not that complicated. Right now our country does not produce much anymore but we sure give away free a lot of things. So please explain how we can survive when we can't even balance our budget, and the only thing we really produce is welfare rolls, and unemployment.
Jim@ccfiile.com
Kim Poness
1:58 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Honestly, Jim, that was my question as well. I look around at every corporation I've worked in over the last 20 years, and slowly, whole departments have been laid off, and their jobs transferred overseas. And it's not management - it's manufacturing, IT, Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable.
Jim Hatherley
12:32 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Jim, thanks for this and let me take a shot at this. First of all, am I correct in assuming - getting back to my blog - that you are not for giving Obama a second term because he has not produced jobs, despite an enormous cost, or are you happy with his performance because he has told you log enough and loud enough that you believe it enough to give hinm another term?
You are hearing Romney's pitch now that Ryan is campaigning with him. The plan is to reduce taxes to ALL Americans, reduce the Corporate tax rate to 25%, eliminate Obamacare etc. The sum of his propositions will bring a level of certainty back into the market and the companies who are holding cash on the sidelines will begin hiring. Lower taxes will stimulate domestic production. An "all of the above" energy program will lower the cost of foreign oil immediately, then lower cost grossly as new energy sources begin to produce. All of these are stimulative, not to mention the positive impact they will have on the stock market which is likely to rise significantly - a major win for all Americans with 401K plans.
I hope this helps.
Kim Poness
2:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
But Jim - will Romney cut the tax breaks to corporations for the previously mentioned outsourced workers to return to work here in the US? Because no amount of tax lowering, unless you address those specific breaks, are going to put my friend Pete back in his IT job here in Framingham. Appurv now has that job, and he's a continent away.
Jim Hatherley
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Kim, thanks for returning to my blog. I responded to most of your qustion in a response just above. But you are asking if reduced corporate taxes will return work to the US that has already been outsourced. My response to that is "perhaps." WE cannot assume that all the companies are thrilled with their outsourced operations. There are extra/hidden costs plus cultural, time, regulatory differences - and quality concerns - that may be nagging issues to be eliminated at the first opportunity.
A better response would be that the Romney approach will re-invigorate the small business entrepreneurs who will start new operations and add the people to grow them. Note that many States (not MA, unfortunately) have been making themselves more competitive with other States in preparation of an improved business climate. I was just seeing a report on Florida that is aggressively trying to take on Texas. Texas is being challneged by Louisiana and Oklahoma. Ohio and Wisconsin have made positive strides to capture disaffected corporations fleeing from Illinois and New York.
Bottom line - we are not headed in the right direction now. So, Madam shareholder, what are you going to do?
arthur
2:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Jim - people run to the emergency room because you can't get in to a local doctor. Providers have engineered this by manipulating doctor's insurance costs high enough to where they can't afford individual practice. People may increase utilization when out of pocket is less or zero, but that's hardly the driver. An uninsured person pays more out of pocket an an insured person because of negotiated rates, however the number or tests, procedures, services, doctors that the insured person will experience is much greater because an insured individual is viewed as a blank checkbook by the provider. Individuals need greater accountability for the reasons they visit, but providers need to stop taking advantage of insurance companies. I've had conversations directly with doctors, asked why they were ordering tests and what was the concern 'because your insurance will cover it and it could rule other things out.' Do you have any idea what UMASS Medical bills annually? I'd love to see a comparison between patient symptoms and services delivered. I looked at one hospital group in another state, the average per patient billing in a single year was greater than $275,000 per patient.. You can't find enough people checking into emergency rooms with ridculous concerns to justify that amount of billing.
Jim Hatherley
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Arthur, thanks again and you may be right about this, but that is not my personal experience. And please, let's not rule out the responsibility of the patients to receive regular maintenance care to avoid the rush to the emergence room crisis. At the same time I do agree that insured patients can be seen as profit centers by providers - whch is why high deductibles create the probablity of awkwardly provocative conversations with the providers on why they are ordering so many expensive tests. Believe me, as soon as the providers begin being questioned by their patients, the number of tests will decline. Until people KNOW the cost of medical care is the situation will persist. Make them pay for the services out of pocket and their utilizations will decline and so will the total payout.
Rich A
2:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
I think far too many people in this country simply don't put in the effort to find facts. I blame this largely on the two-party system. It creates a culture of "red vs blue" or "us vs them". When people identify so strongly with one side and learn to have so much antipathy for the other, it reduces their willingness to look at each side in an honest way. Look at any political forum or Facebook page dedicated to politics. Here's what you'll find:
- People on the right complaining about the welfare leeches, people who want everything for free, President Obama's fake birth certificate, President Obama's socialist/communist ways,etc.
- People on the left complaining about Romney not paying taxes for 10 years, Paul Ryan's plan to destroy Medicare, Romney's past with Bain capital...again, you get the idea.
Many of these "facts" that people accept so easily are spin or outright lies. Both the President and Governor Romney are guilty of lies and absurd distortions. Yet people on both the far right and far left continually criticize the mote in the other side's eye while ignoring the log in the their own. It doesn't help that it's so hard to find genuinely nonpartisan sources of information. I can't take a "source" very seriously when it's The National Review, The Heritage Foundation, the Huffington Post, or Rolling Stone.
It's difficult to elect someone on individual merits when all we see is a label and automatically assign a set of values to that person.
Jim Hatherley
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Rich, thanks for posting in. While I certainly agree with you as to the level of knowledge/sophistication of too many potential voters, and even the amount of spin applied by the parties, here is a stubborn little fact: The majority of voters are Unenrolled. This was the subject of two blogs several weeks back. These so-called independent thinkers who claim to vote for the "best person" make the call - who do they believe, who do they disbelieve? Instinctively, however, most of us know/sense and feel that the Country/State is on the right trackk or not. We know this. So it is difficult to pin the tail on the Parties when there are so many independent faces looking into the mirror for the reason why we get the government we do. i think you agree with this (or I am agreeing with you).
So, Mr. Shareholder, what are you going to do regarding the future of the CEO?
Joe Rizoli
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Myd your comment about the "reputation" is total nonsense. It's like saying to a woman that just got raped "it was your fault honey you've sustained a reputation"
Smarting up Myd. You obviously have no intention to agree with ANYTHING the Rizoli's say period because you have a disdain and deep hatered that will never go away from your brain. I have always taken the side of people here even if I don't particularly like them. You would have been great at the Salem Witch trials, you above others, because of your predisposed mindset, you would have found the witches tit on everybody you disliked. Shame on you. Your comment about the "reputation" was callous, cold and uncaring to make about any human being,
I would never even come close to saying that about an illegal alien as much as I disagree with them.
Joe Rizoli
Jim Hatherley
3:01 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Please ... can we move on ...
Kevin Mullen
2:01 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Jim - Although I disagree you I applaud the tone you take in your blog. My big question on it all would what happens if the Republicans don't win the Senate back and we are stuck with the same gridlock as we have now. You have to admit that for the last two years not much has been implemented that Obama has pushed for, especially on the economic side of things. With compromise now a four letter word in DC I find it curious how we can blame Obama for all the economic issues we currently face. Congress is as much to blame since any bipartisan efforts are quickly squashed by the elements of both parties that are far from the middle of the political spectrum.
In the end I support some tax relief combined with cuts in federal spending, but I don't believe in supply-side or the trickle down economics that they are putting out there. Ryan's plan will not reduce taxes for all Americans and the cost to the middle class is well documented elsewhere. I just fail to see how see how they can accomplish all of this tax relief for a limited group and also cut all the programs. It would help if Romney provided some more details on where the cuts would be instead of just these core principles. He needs to step out and give us all some clarity on what his budget would be. I'd be curious to know what is on his tax returns as well. Hard to believe that after his father enacted the practice of releasing all the returns he is the first to stray from it.
Kevin Mullen
2:01 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
And to get to the point of the article, fundraising and spending is ridiculous. The SuperPac spending is the worst of it since they have no limits to what they can do. Compressing the time for campaigning would cure much of this as well as limiting the ability of these superpacs. I think most of us are fed up with it all at this point. And pro-Romney groups showed pretty clearly in the primary that enough money can overwhelm an opponent.
Jim Hatherley
3:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Kevin, thank you very much for your kind words. This is very important to me, and it also encourages readers like you to post in with your views.
On your last point, absolutely, Romney's money advantage swamped his rivals, just as Obama's money edge rolled over McCain and why Kerry was able to disassemble his competitors in 2004. This is not a good thing, and I see that we agree on this.
I might add that Obama steamrolled America in his first two years with an arrogance that was breath-taking. i hope you don't forget Pelosi's, "We won, you lost" words of bi-partisanship as she slammed the door to Republican participation. Same with Reid. Or Pelosi's infamous, "You'll have to pass the bill to see what's in it" comment regarding the 2800 page Health Bill. Astounding!
However, the people spoke in 2010 and the message was historically clear. Brown won in Massachusetts for heaven's sakes, and so many Republicans won gubernatorial races, even recalls.
So, I am back to my question. You are a shareholder. Your CEO is moving the organizations down the right track or the wrong track. What are you going to do?
Simple.
Rob Penzke
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Jim, I see you are pushing your republican views (FYI, I'm neither Dem or Rep). I believe that reducing income taxes is going to put a bigger burden on the deficit. I do agree on the Corp tax because more manufacturing jobs need to be brought back. Keep in mind that we like to buy stuff for cheap, so in a way it's our fault as well that lots of jobs were sent overseas. I was at Old Navy over the weekend and I was curious, I checked over 30 labels and in any of them did it say Made in the USA. As for the stock market, please kind sir, what happens in Europe or Asia affects the markets here as well, so I'm not sold on that. As for Energy programs, be realistic, the oil companies have their hands on Congress and no president can change a thing. The Bush family, Cheney and friends got richer with 2 wars for oil. So forgive me for not trusting any politicians.
Jim Hatherley
3:00 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Rob, thanks for posting in. I get your points. Everyone has their doubts regarding politicians - and they have earned our cynicism. Still, you are the shareholder making the call. Is you organization headed on the right track or does it need a neww leader and a different track. What are you going to do?
By the way, the blogs on early July were directed to unenrolled voters in the event you want to google me/Westborough Patch to see them. I think you will find them interesting.
All the best.
Jim Rizoli
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Talk,talk, talk....here is what the problem is....see if you can fix this.
The fella who did this knows his business, I think we should give him some credit for showing us what the real issue is.
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EW5IdwltaAc?rel=0
Jim@ccfiile.com
Rob Penzke
9:42 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
@Jim Rizoli,
I notice the same thing when I looked at the budget when it was released and I'm not an accountant. We need people in Washington with guts, people that have what it takes to fix the budget and stop borrowing. Lowering taxes is not going to cut it!
Rich A
3:15 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Jim:
I didn't see your blog a couple of weeks ago, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's already been dealt with: does unenrolled = moderate? Personally, I registered as an Independent so I could vote in either party's primary, but my sense is that a lot of unenrolled/independent voters still have leanings to one side or the other and still tend to fall into the us/them trap.
Further, I don't think there's a consistent answer to be had about the track the country is on. It can be a subjective question. And in times like these, when I'd agree that a lot of people would say the country is not on a good path, then the cause of the problem becomes an issue of which party can spin better and paint the other side as being at fault.
As to your question about hiring a CEO, my response about the two party system was an attempt to answer it indirectly. The analogy doesn't really work because in the business world, people are (hopefully) hired for their experience and abilities - not whether they are, say, a Patriots or Giants fan. Bottom line: if you want to know the individual, you have to look past the label.
Jim Hatherley
3:31 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Rich, one of my questions about Unenrolled voters is whether or not Unenerolled is synonymous with ambivalent (not moderate). While some unenrolled voters do their homework and make informed choices on the "best person", most do not even vote, and if they do they derive their information from the negative political ads (which is why they work so well - they appeal to a politically illiterate public). And yet, they are the "majority" registered voter bloc and have a major responsibility to do they duty. But mostly, they don't. I'd go back and read the two blogs if you can - the comments were very interesting.
I don't buy into the right track/wrong track spin notion. People are smarter than that. They can see where the Nation is heading when they are at the gas pump and supermarket, when they are at work or talking with their friends and relatives about companies that are hiring or laying off, when they see what is happening to the value of their home, and what they see in the headlines and on the news - and just the way they "feel." Respectfully, blaming this on spin is like having a house without a mirror - because that's where the answer is.
And, why is the business world different from America. If you get hired on experience and ability as CEO of a business, why wouldn't you demand even more experience and ability for someone to be President? Isn't this part of the problem we face now? So, what are you going to do?
Thanks again for posting in.
Joe Rizoli
3:29 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
So basically from that video link we are in deep poop no matter who is on office.
My opiion of the debt also includes the fact that compound interest is killing us and we need to apply the usury laws in America again as was practiced back in the colonial days .
USURY is the big reason why we are in debt. The whole money system needs to be abolished, compound interest done away with, fractional banking ended.
All this discussion is just rearranging the furniture on the Titanic.
Joe Rizoli
Jim Hatherley
3:49 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Joe, that is an interesting piece, which I have seen before. The task is clearly a formidable one, but it is clear that Obama and the Democrats have the Country on an accelerating crash course. At the very least the appointment of Paul Ryan to the Republican ticket refocuses the discussion to the budget, debt and deficit, but even his plan takes a 30 year trajectory to a balanced budget. However, as the Chinese say, the talk of a thousand miles begins with the first step. I hope all the shareholders reading along take the few moments to view that video - it may help them decide what they are going to do... what they really must do if they care about the futures for their children and grandchildren.
Stephen Pohl
9:59 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Jim, "30 years!!! "....what they really must do if they care about the futures for their children and grandchildren..." In 30 years, I'll be dead, my children will be dead, and my youngest grandchild will be 40. The only people getting ahead will be the executives in the Fortune 150 TODAY!... buying a second Cadillac before they die.
Seriously... my daughter will be 70 in 30 years and Romney wants to cut Medicare, do you REALLY think Romney cares about an old woman after he himself will probably be dead?
Jim Hatherley
1:59 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Stephen, thanks for posting in, and also thanks for bringing up the notion of 30 years. As you could see from my note above I agree that 30 years is far too long. However, that is the only idea on the table right now. Nothing from Obama whose trajectory will add another $10T in debt in less than 10 years.
To see how bad this is you do need to look at the brief accounting UTube video shown below.
Somehow i think your post was incomplete, as if you were about to say what the government should do, then did not follow through. Perhaps you will add that back. However, to answer your question, it is "YES". And I would also add that if the same question is placed to Obama, based on performance, the response is clearly NO.
Seriously, while Romney will not be around to see it, let's not forget that he has 5 sons and 18 grandchildren (so far). He has a clear interest in fixing things, in fact, this is his background and experience, something for you to consider as you sit as a shareholder wondering if you will reappoint your interim CEO or bring in a new CEO with different skills and a different direction.
So Stephen, what are you going to do? All the best.
Rich A
9:58 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Jim:
I went back and read those blog posts and the responses. I think the reason that MA continues to be dominated by the Dems despite the majority of voters being independent is social issues. Social issues resonate with many people in a way that fiscal issues do not, and there are people who vote based solely on those issues. (And I would guess that this holds true in states where the Repubs have the same stranglehold on political power).
To answer your other points: I agree that people sense that the nation is headed down the wrong track fiscally. But the spin and finger-pointing plays into their sense of why this is happening. Some blame Reagan, some blame Bush, some blame Obama. Personally, I feel that the economy is too complex to point to one specific cause for things happening. Look at the housing bubble: the spin is either that it happened because irresponsible people borrowed too much money, because of predatory banks with little government oversight, or because of government demands on the initial lending institutions. But the problem was really a combination of all three of those issues; each side just cherry-picked the cause that supported its own agenda. I will repeat that it is hard to find objective sources of information out there.
What am I going to do? Continue to be as informed as possible and to be as objective and dispassionate as possible when looking at candidates.
Jim Hatherley
3:22 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Thanks, Rich, and thanks for reading back.
May I ask what you mean by social issues? Is it that suddenly all Catholic women want abortion on demand as their first objective of government? Or that all women believe that they are entitled to free birth control? Is it that everyone who owns a gun wants to be certain that the Feds and State do not abridge their right to own one? And how many people are so completely consumed on issues like gay rights or same sex marriage that they even approach a plausible plurality? Or is it all about governmental free stuff and providing services for illegal aliens because that is fair - even if the Cities/Towns cannot afford it?
So, I am thankful that you raised this issue, but I would like to better understand the social issues piece.
Somehow, I think a social issue might be corruption in government. Or the morality of a former Senator, or the integrity of the senior Senator for not concealing their taxable yacht. Or, running the government within its means. Why aren't these bigger determinants in terms of party dominance in this State?
As to the economy, I think we honestly need to come to grips with the debt increasing faster under the incumbent than all preceding Presidents combined. This is a stubborn fact that will not go away. And then I would ask as you make your analysis how confident you are that the situation will improve if he is re-elected, or only reach/exceed the projected $26T?
Jim Hatherley
9:58 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Rob Penzke, thanks for posting back. No we're talking! Let me put you back in your shareholder's seat. You are looking over the organizational balance sheet and measuring the interim CEO's impact on it. Has his performance measured up to what they organization needs? More important, what are the chances that the balance sheet will improve and the organization get stronger if you vote to reappoint him?
So Rob - and everyone - what are you going to do?
Rob Penzke
10:49 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Jim,
I'm sorry to tell you this, but it will not matter who wins the next election. People will go nuts if medicare and SS are cut and in 4 years a new President will be elected. We the people are to blame for what is happening as well. Passing it forward, lying about wars and giving money to countries that really hate us. If you look at the budget, we need politicians with guts that could take care of things in 4 years. Politicians that are wiling to lose the election in the 2016 because they did something for the good of their country and not because they want to be re-elected. Let's be honest, the President alone cannot change things, Congress needs to get involve and stop the political nonsense. If they don't then our Nation as we know it will not be the same in a few years.
Jim Rizoli
3:23 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
When a country is pretty much bankrupt and they continue
to print money to cover it up there is not we can do except go down with the ship.
But before we go completely under I'm going to expose those who put us in this boat. Sadly most people are more concerned with the music playing on the top deck and not the big hole in the hull. They are more concerned which leader is going to calm our nerves while we sink yet saying don't worry I'll fix everything.
Jim@ccfiile.com
FindBalance
1:59 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Stephen Pohl – Why can’t your daughter plan and save now for the expenses for her own health insurance for when she is 70? You put your confidence in the govt, but you see how anything and everything in which the govt is involved becomes political. You put your confidence in D’s and Pres Obama, but they have already taken ½ Trillions dollars from Medicare to help pay for Obamacare, and that comes from people who are on Medicare now and have already paid into that system. By the time your daughter is 70, there is a great chance that there will be just Universal Healthcare (insurance) provided by the govt, and bureaucrats will be deciding who can get what medical procedure; if you read Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel (yup, Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, and involved in Obama’s administration), he has written that the govt should not “invest” in people’s health care after a certain age and medical condition, because they are past their ability to contribute to society. Would you put your trust in govt if your daughter fell into that category?
I also disagree that the only Fortune 150 execs will be getting ahead – if it is up to the govt, it will be them and those connected to them who will prosper (we are already seeing it with special benefits for govt employees, the latest of which is an exemption from Obamacare). If it is up to the market, everyone has an opportunity to get ahead – it would be their choice to take the opportunity or not.
Ben Jackson
3:24 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Jim,
Either you don't know that this is as a direct result of the disastarous and terrifying "Citizens United" SCOTUS decision, or you just plain don't care.
COrporations - who prefer GOP leadership because they get less regulation and can wildly profiteer under their "oversight as they did leading up to the 2008 meltdown of the economy - can now donate virtually unlimited funds to the GOP to ensure their lackeys get elected.
To counter this unprecedented and horribly, horribly corrupt influence, President Obama and the Democratic National Committee must raise more money.
Pretending that this is not the case is simply more GOP smokescreening, and not even the tiniest bit grounded in reality.
Jim Hatherley
3:39 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Ben, thank you for this, and as I said in the text of the blog, I care and I am going to agree with you. The only "positive" thing about the Citizen's United decision is that it leveled the playing field a bit with the scores of Millions routinely donated by Unions to Democrats. That was not especially fair either.
And, I might ask if you are aware that Wall Street has traditionally given more to Democrats than Republicans. It seems counterintuitive, but Obama was significantly supported by Manhattan money in 2008, McCain not so much.
But still, you reinforce the very real point that more money only escalates the money arms race, and I am once again agreeing with you on that. We need shorter campaigns. As I mentioned also in this week's blog, this election should be very simple based on your philosophy of government and point of view. All the negatives are distractions that intentionally mislead uninformed voters to avoid becoming informed and more responsible.
Bottom line - while I am clear in terms of my taking a Republican perspective, I am pretty much agreeing with you on the money situation. All the best.
FindBalance
4:37 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Ben – I disagree with your assertion that [spending enormous amounts of money on campaigns] is a result of the “Citizens United” decision. Big money has been spent in politics forever, and whenever it can be raised. What is disastrous is that unions can forcibly collect dues, then use those dues to donate virtually unlimited funds to the Dems to ensure their lackeys get elected (does this argument sound familiar?). What’s worse is that the politicians to whom the unions contribute are not supported by all the union members. And let’s not forget the symbiosis between union and Dem politicians – unions spend big money getting Dem politician elected, and Dem politician make rules that benefit unions (at the expense of the rest of us who are not or cannot be - for any reason - a member of a union).
To counter this unprecedented and horribly, horribly corrupt influence, corporations are now able to catch up to the Democratic National Committee spending, supported by union contributions.
[I personally would like to see all this money taken out of the political campaigning process.]
FindBalance
4:37 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
RE the economic meltdown in 2008: remember, that was caused by the Dems - lead by Barney Frank - pressuring banks to give too many loans to people who could not afford to pay back them back, then backing them up with Fannie/Freddie (you know, taxpayer money). Wall Street had their part in the meltdown, but not because of lack of oversight by GOP leadership – in fact, the House Finance Committee has that oversight responsibility, of which Barney Frank was chair for the 4 years leading up to the meltdown! So if you want to blame lack of oversight on anyone…
BTW, the Dems – lead this time by Pres Obama – still support lending with the same lax qualifications as before, and no rules or regs have been made to prevent Wall Street from doing what they did pre-2008 (not even Frank-Dodd). So much for the Dems trying to prevent this from happening again.
Geez - talk about not being even the tiniest bit grounded in reality…
Jim Rizoli
6:34 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Citizens United what a joke!
The Dems are upset because they are being outspent by the Repubs.
If it was the opposite they wouldn't have made peep.
Jim@ccfiile.com
Rich A
6:34 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Jim:
You're right, the term "social issues" can be vague. Setting aside your loaded descriptions (*great* example of spin, by the way), I would define social issues as: abortion, the environment, gun rights/restrictions, gay rights/marriage, separation of church and state, education, the death penalty, illicit drug abuse, and civil liberties issues related to race and gender. I recognize that there is a financial element to nearly all of those issues. But I think most people consider them mostly as social issues, not financial ones. Politics in America is (sadly) mostly about making people afraid of what the other side will do if elected, and so they vote to protect what they care about.
I don't know why corruption in government doesn't get on people's radar screens. It certainly ought to. The state government in MA often disgusts me, but I suppose it's not unrealistic that someone might say, "Yeah, the corruption is bad but I vote Democrat because I want to protect a woman's right to choose." (Or conversely, in a deep red state, they might say, "Yeah, the corruption is bad but I vote Republican so they won't take my guns away.") This is where I think the spin and the two-party system really hurts us as a state and a nation.
I don't think Romney *or* Obama are good for America. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary; his stance on social issues appalls me, but at least he is committed to taking our government back from the plutocracy.
Jim Hatherley
7:33 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Rich, thanks for this but forgive me when I ask if you have been guilty of voter malpractice? If social issues are the key; if you voted for Ron Paul even though you are appalled by his stance on social issues, what's the deal? Using words like "plutocracy", which I believe is about the wealthy having too much influence in government, is just too vague for my readers.
I am sorry to say that you cannot say that neither Romney nor Obama is good for America. This is what we've got. As a shareholder empowered to select the interim CEO or choose a different CEO with different skills and perspective, you have to may a definitive choice. Are you confident that Obama can lead you and your children and the Nation into the future, or is it time to make a change? What do you want to do?
Jim Rizoli
7:34 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
People vote for the one that will help them out and the hell with the rest of ya.
Obama gets all the votes of the people that he keeps employed, which when it comes to our bloated Govt. it's a lot of people.
Can't speak for Ronmey because he isn't in there yet.
So if the person is cutting your job then I would think you're not voting for him.
If you promise everyone that you going to spend money wisely and they will keep their jobs then you a good liar, and will do very well.
Jim@ccfiile.com
Aron Levy
11:01 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Then why would I, as a small business owner, decide to vote for the President a second time?
Your logic makes absolutely no sense.
Jim Rizoli
6:36 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron....there is n logic to politics
Jim@ccfiile.com
Rich A
9:25 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Jim:
I voted for Ron Paul because I don't believe the federal government has that much impact on the social issues I mentioned; they seem to be dealt with more at the state level (except for the environment, which is dealt with indirectly at the federal level because there's a huge financial/economic aspect to it).
I know that the choice for President is Obama or Romney - but doesn't that highlight the problem with the two-party system? Going back to your CEO analogy, what corporation would help itself if it only had two choices for a new CEO? I really don't know what I'm going to do in November. Obama signed off on the NDAA and backs the TPP, and to me Romney will simply become a rubber stamp for ALEC's legislative "suggestions". I don't believe that trickle-down economics works, and that's clearly the intent of the Romney/Ryan budget plan.
My concerns about the candidates comes back full circle to the point of this blog post: yeah, money does talk louder than performance. There's so much money going into these campaigns, from corporations, unions, special interest groups, and superPACs, that I feel like the government is no longer for, by, or of us, the American people, and we're continuously offered the lesser of two evils.
Jim Hatherley
9:54 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Rich, thank you for your clarifications and I certainly agree that Ron Paul has some great ideas - most likely to be carried forward by his son. I wouldn't be so sure about the States controlling social programs because Supreme Court cases like Roe v. Wade, the recent Healthcare Case, and Obama's executive order on a specific class of illegals come from Washington. But, I take your point and believe that the States' home rule authority has been usurped by the Feds over the years.
I am also agreeing with your final paragraph, so much so that I am going to urge you to look for my next blog that will be posted by the weekend. In the meantime, you might want to check out an accompanying blog from Ray Fellows just below yours. He has given a dispassionate analysis. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Ray Fellows
9:25 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Electing a President should be an easy choice, especially when looking at the incumbent. You have been the job for more than 3 years, what shape is our "business" in. Debt is even worse, unemployment is out of control, housing market has collapsed even more, GM is run by the taxpayers(or should I say PAID for by the taxpayers) and their is no hope on the horizon.
If I am a "stock Holder" in a company where the CEO has doubled our debt to 15 trillion and estimates to increase another 5 trillion next year, I fire him and bring a new CEO. No politics here, no Republican versus Democrat, no conservative versus Liberal, just plain facts.
Is it all his fault? Of course not but we elected him to stop the bleeding and he has made it worse. Sorry Mr. President but just like President Bush, you havent done the job. As far as I am concerned, you're fired and I will cast my vote to give someone else the job. Of that person can't do the job, I will fire them too! REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION!
Jim Hatherley
9:36 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Ray, thank you for your post, and welcome to my blog. Your response is a model for others - who may look at the same issues and come to a different conclusion - because it is based on an interpretation of facts vs. emotion.
Paul Bishop
9:25 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I am often offended by the partisan rhetoric that recipients of public assistance are lazy or scamming the system. Granted, there will always be a few bad eggs-- but based upon actual investigations by the GAO, welfare fraud actually runs around one tenth of one percent, or one in one thousand recipients. Your accusations at the nine hundred and ninety nine for the actions of the one is both ridiculous and an intentional attempt at misrepresentation for the purpose of your own political gain. Also, please back up your claim of 200 junkets... see, being dishonest about the purpose of trips and publishing that "information" is going to backfire on those that choose to lie to try to deceive folks into believing partisan nonsense.
Numbers and facts, please... links to actual research-- not RNC propaganda.
Jim Hatherley
9:45 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Paul, thank you very much for responding, and I am sorry that you feel offended by my partisan rhetoric. Please note, however, that I have fully identified myself as a Republican Town Chair..
The fund raising issue is public record and I am pasting an article published this week showing that Obama's total is now up to 203 events. Why is it taking so much time, energy and money trying to convince people that he is doing a good job? It's probably because he has a record he must defend, or obfuscate.
As to the references to "free stuff" that you cite, just look at the increases in food stamps and welfare during Obama's term. And, more people are actually being placed on social security disability than finding jobs. The point I and other are making is that resources are finite and when there are too many people in the wagon, and too few pulling it, you've got big problems.
Here's a reference for you. All the best.
Obama Has Attended, On Average, One Fundraiser Every 60 Hours While Running for Reelection
—By Andy Kroll| Mon Aug. 13, 2012 11:57 AM PDT
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President Obama. White House/Flickr
This weekend, President Obama attended the 200th fundraiser of his reelection campaign. By the end of Sunday, the president had reached 203 fundraisers since officially launching his re-election bid in April 2011. That's more fundraisers than any presidential candidate in history.
Put another way, that's an average of one fundraiser roughly every 60 hours for Obama.
Aron Levy
10:49 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Jim, I think the numbers make sense when you consider the fact that the President has to combat all of the Koch/Adelson et c.-backed super-PACs.
Considering how few superPACs are supporting the incumbent, versus the large number supporting the challenger, President Obama needs as many fundraisers as he can get.
Surely you must admit that makes sense, even if you disagree with the President's policies.
Paul Bishop
11:24 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Obviously, Jim, you are not educated on the subject on which you speak. Social Security Disability Insurance is just that- an insurance policy people purchase with their wages. The benefit amount, should a worker need to collect it, is directly tied to the worker's payments into the system, and the amount is based upon the three previous year's income.
And, as I requested, I don't wan't RNC propaganda, I want you to admit that you are characterizing events like the president visting Massachusetts after the flooding as "Campaign".
Dishonesty by omission.
FindBalance
11:15 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I'll agree with you to a degree, Aron. But let's not forget about George Soros' money being spent not only D campaigns, but also in other areas that help bring down capitalism in this country (George's stated goal). And I fear his model of "benevolent despit" much more than I fear any goal of the Koch brothers.
Jim Hatherley
11:24 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron, thanks, and I am going to agree with you - as I said in the piece - that fund-raising has become an arms race we cannot afford. However, let's not re-make history. It was Obama who declared that he was going to raise $1B for his re-election fund as a way of a) stifling the prospect of Hillary Clinton challenging him within the Party; and b) discouraging Republicans from even trying to challenge him.
Why should an incumbent need $1B when they have a record and the people either appreciate what he did, or want him out? This is what the blog is about ... and Obama is making too much noise trying to convince people he has done a good job. As Shakespeare might say, "I believe he doest protest too much."
And, we cannot forget that the Unions have been confiscating workers' money and donating their dues back to the Democrats for years, in exchange for benefits that have made American workers unaffordable.
But here's the thing. Obama is fund-raising so much because the funds have not been rolling in as they had hoped or projected. There is an enthusiasm gap that is not as much about money as it is about performance. Don't you think?
Aron Levy
12:56 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I must disagree with you on several points. Unions are what made this country the great power it is. Without them, I can guarantee you wouldn't have a weekend. You wouldn't have your healthcare covered by your employer (unless you are self-employed, but that's another story.)
Would you like to see another event like the Homestead Strike, where Frick installed sniper towers in his plant in order to deter striking workers?
And frankly, with the right-wing noise machine, the President has no choice but to trumpet his own accomplishments to the best of his ability.
Remember, we do not have a media powerhouse like FOX to parrot our talking points. You can bring up MSNBC, certainly, though they're hardly as partisan as FOX. And they have nowhere near the viewership.
(Also, I love how you use the term 'confiscate' in regards to paying union dues. I wonder how many proud union members would agree with that view...)
Jim Hatherley
12:56 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Rob Penzke, I am sorry this is so out of order, but thanks for your comment. I understand your skepticism about the Presidency, and you are actually reviewing my next blog which will be posted this weekend, so please look for it.
Bottom line - I agree with you that the people are to blame for accepting/tolerating the pathetic performance we have been getting for too long. I do not agree with you, however, that it does not matter who wins. It matters very much because the President owns an emotional connection with the people (or not) that supersedes the blockage that Congress might provide.
Let me give you two examples - compare the leadership/connectivity/governing skills of Reagan and George W. Bush. On the other side, compare Clinton and Obama. it does matter, and it is obviously not a Republicans are good and democrats are bad kind of thing. We must find that next leader who can connect us, not divide us.
Aron Levy
4:50 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
FindBalance
George Soros is attempting to 'bring down capitalism in this country?'
Would you care to elaborate on that rather ridiculous accusation?
(I say this as a registered Social Democrat. I know a Socialist when I see one. And George Soros, the hedge fund manager ain't no Socialist.)
Jim Hatherley
12:56 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Paul Bishop, thanks again for your note, although I must confess that I am not accustomed to being called dishonest. The issue of social security disability isn't that it exists or that it has a formula, but that it is being exercised to a degree that is well beyond normal. it does not speak well for the state of the economy or how people figure out how to work around a system, legitimately and illegitimately.
This is not RNC propaganda, these are my personal opinions which I am willing to put my name on, and upon which I am willing to accept and respond to comments.
That's it!
As to the number of campaign stops, I hardly make up that number, just as i do not count the numbers of rounds of golf, or the hours of taxpayer money required to fly Air Force One to his events. These things are what they are as reported by the media.
I get it that you are a Democrat and Obama supporter. We are in Massachusetts after all, so I think you probably have more company than me.
But dishonest? C'mon, you can do better than that.
FindBalance
12:57 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Paul Bishop – Jim wrote, “more people are actually being placed on social security disability than finding jobs.” I think you misunderstood what he wrote, because I don’t see the relevance between anything you wrote RE the SSDI system and Jim’s statement.
And can you please explain to what you are referring when you said, “like the president visiting Massachusetts after the flooding as "Campaign" “? To what visit are you referring, and after which flood? And what do you mean by “Campaign” – a fundraiser?
If by the above you mean that Obama recently visited flooded areas in Western MA, then attended a fundraiser in Boston, but that shouldn’t be counted as part of the 200 fundraisers he has attended during his campaign, then I disagree with that being dishonesty by omission. The bottom line, and the point that Jim and the article he quoted are making, is that Pres Obama has attended 200 fundraisers during his campaign; visiting a flooded area certainly does not disqualify attending a subsequent fundraiser from being counted as such!
FindBalance
2:32 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron – I fail to see the connection between Unions being responsible for weekends and that (and through other unstated Union work) is what made this country the great power that it is. No doubt Unions did some good things – that even everyone may have benefited by – but the good things they did were to prevent against extremes. Working 80 hour weeks is extreme, child labor is extreme, shooting at striking workers is plain against the law; though I am not a big govt person, I believe preventing extremes and upholding the law are roles of the govt. In the absence of that, Unions made some noise and did some good work to prevent these extremes. But…
1. I have a different view on what made this country the great (economic) power it is – free enterprise (with the prevention of extremes), education for all that allows individuals to be in charge and control of their own destiny, the right to keep the fruits of your labor
2. Unions now negotiate and ACT ruthlessly to get the most for their members (do you remember Jimmy Hoffa’s speech last year?). They state this openly as their goal. It serves to create a closed market that only benefits the members, at the expense of anyone using their service; that is hardly free enterprise
3. I don’t think Unions are responsible for Healthcare benefits. I believe they were spawned from companies wanting to attract the best people, and it has extended from there.
Aron Levy
3:24 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
You say that unions act and negotiate ruthlessly for their members. And that's a bad thing? Why wouldn't the average factory want the absolute best shake they could possibly receive? It is people like you and Scott Walker (not to mention your benighted Koch brothers) who wish to see unions divested of their collective bargaining power. Without the power of collective bargaining, against management, the workers ALWAYS lose.
Aron Levy
2:57 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Oh and like I said, I am distinctly against the free market. Laissez-faire Capitalism has gotten the world in more problems than this forum has space to print.
I am a Social Democrat. If you're unfamiliar with the term (which I can't hold against you; we're a tiny portion of the American political landscape, especially when compared to Europe), that means I'm a moderate Socialist. And I'm also a small business owner. I am ALL for greater regulation when it comes to economic and financial issues.
Without regulation, all that is left is greed. And we all know how well that ended, no?
FindBalance
2:33 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron, RE Fox, et al - My take is that for decades the main stream media gave only one, left (more than just) leaning point of view to the American public. It is about time that there is a news outlet that gives a different perspective, and puts it in the context of the history of America. And the response of the American people is to flock to it because it is so much more attractive to them, hence the better viewership.
But to think that MSNBC is not as "partisan" as Fox - who is more partisan than Chris Matthews? Well, actually Rachel Maddow is.
And to think MSNBC, CNBC, CNN are not (more than left-leaning) powerhouses. Then add the Boston Globe, the NY Time, the LA Times, Newsweek, Time Magazine, ABC, NBC, CBS - please don't pretend that the left does not have any allies in the media. They have many, and have had them for a lot longer period of time than Fox has been around.
Aron Levy
2:50 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
FindBalance,
Sure thing. Just keep beating that dead horse. You can keep thinking that the media leans left. You're totally entitled to that.
But there are those of us that actually knows that the majority of the US media leans center-right. But definitely keep reading NewsMax and NewsBusters.
They'll tell you everything you want to hear about how we're all conspiring against you.
FindBalance
4:50 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron - Is that the new mantra from the left - the US media leans center-right? I don't even have to go back that far to prove that the main street media is to the left - not only during the 2008 Election Campaign, but also ever since then, when have you ever heard a peep from any MSM outlet about the history of President Obama, his affiliations and connections, qualifications (actually, the lack thereof), or ideology, let alone an outcry from them over releasing college transcripts, etc. The MSM has *hid* this man. At least after he was elected, Newsweek (another bastian of neutrality) had the guts to run an issue that had the cover "We're All Socialists Now".
Jim Hatherley
3:24 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron, I was reading the exchange between you and Find Balance. I would have provided a similar response - and actually did but my post is somewhere in cyberspace.
Thank you for putting your political view into the context of your comments. Suffice it to say that there is little chance that we will agree. You've got the President you want and therefore I can understand why you are defending him. After all, my blog asked that you consider the candidates for CEO and make a choice. That didn't mean you had to choose Romney, just look at the facts and make your call. You did this - good job, and thanks.
Aron Levy
4:50 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Jim, I want to thank you for your astonishing civility on this issue. Compared to most of the folks I generally deal with (on the SPLC Hatewatch blog and -ugh- Youtube), you are a refreshing breath of gentility in an otherwise unpleasant political world.
(Also, I will be the first one to admit I throw punches along with the worst of them. Sadly, it's environmental and all that.)
But I definitely intend to keep reading your posts and commenting! Thanks again.
Concerned Citizen
5:09 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
FindBalance,
You forgot NPR and 99% of Hollywood, who feel compelled to tell us how to lead our lives according to their left-wing agendas. Aron's assertion that the media leans center-right is ludicrous.
Aron Levy
5:31 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
And you forgot about nearly the entire spectrum of talk radio. And the WSJ. And the Washington Times. And NRO. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Anyone who thinks that the New York Times leans to the left really has no idea what the left is. Aside from Paul Krugman, they really don't have anyone on their editorial page who is an avowed leftist.
And do you need me to show you a list of Republicans in Hollywood? Because that meme has been false and worn-out.
FindBalance
6:03 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I didn't forget talk radio, etc., Aron - you only brought up Fox, and said you didn't have a media powerhouse like FOX to parrot your talking points - I was pointing out all the ones you do have, and have had for a lot longer than talk radio, Fox, have been around.
Also, it's not the NYT editorial staff that's liberal, it's the majority of the news writers that give a simpathetic left slant too their news stories.
One more thing :-) How many Republicans in Hollywood make conservative movies, or movies that make fun of sitting presidents?
FindBalance
6:01 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Aron - To your response about unions ruthlessly negotiating (don't forget ACTing, too) Yes it’s a bad thing – it creates a fake, closed market. It creates a monopoly of sorts. By its very definition, it breeds collusion. It stymies competition. And it artificially drives prices up. Wouldn’t consumers want to get the best product for the absolute best price? Who is doing collective bargaining for the consumer?
In a free market, workers don’t have to “lose”, if that’s what they feel is happening – they have options if they don’t like the way things are with their employer – they can get a job somewhere else. They can start a company to compete with the old company, and attract workers by offering more attractive compensation, work conditions, etc., than the old company. They can go into a different field. All it takes is effort in a different direction. There are many more opportunities in a free market.
RE Kock bros – I said I fear Soros’ model of benevolent despot more than I feared any goal of the Koch bros. – how is that benighting them. Please don’t exaggerate my words – I don’t think I did that to you.
And I give you credit for identifying yourself as a Social Democrat. You can probably guess we won’t agree on political issues…
FindBalance
6:03 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Also Aron - wrt regulation on economic and financial issues, my belief is that more is not better, the right regulation is necessary, and the right regulation prevents extremes (like monopolies) , makes sure the playing field is level everyone has an opportunity to compete, and no one cheats. The opposite side to your assertion about how greed ends (with which I disagree, of course), is that when the govt has too much power to regulate, you eventually get too much govt that is all-powerful, and we know how that ends, too.
RE Soros - I don't think he is Socialist, either - he believes he knows best and that he (or a small # of people) should make economic decisions for everyone - hence the "benevolent despot" model to which Ii previously referred.
Concerned Citizen
6:03 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Yes, because I only know of Clint Eastwood and Dennis Miller who lean right.
Aron Levy
6:59 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Here you are, I hope this helps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dwain/Republican_Celebrities_Page
Jim Hatherley
6:59 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
YIKES!
Let's agree that Aron has reasons for voting for Obama and has listed them. Let's also agree that Find Balance has equal reason to vote for Romney.
... and let's move on. I want to hear from others before launching the next blog.
Jim Rizoli
9:36 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Next blog please!
Jim@ccfiile.com
Concerned Citizen
7:02 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Unfortunately, most of the Hollywood actors who lean "right" on that website are dead or very old...Bob Hope, Walter Brennan, Frank Sinatra, Jane Russell, Charlton Heston -- all dead. Aron, your argument is not convincing. It is 2012.
Will Oliveira
2:03 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012
Wow, you can turn on any political talk radio station or Fox News and hear the same message.
First, the United States of America is not a business, so the analogy doesn't even have one leg to stand on. Second, If people really believe the country is "bankrupt", they should turn off the radio, unplug the tv. and take a long deep breath. The only thing bankrupt is the mind who believes such nonsense.
Finally, the links between money, politics and corruption aren't news. Those links do however underscore the need for better regulation within government and business. Unfortunately for America, one politcal party is as anti-deregulation as they are anti-tax and so little sunlight gets shed on political spending, especially since the now infamous Citizens United decision was ruled on by the conservative majority currently on the U.S. Supreme Court. Begrudging President Obama for trying to keep pace with opposition fundraising, hugely influenced this year by private, billionaire money being sent Mitt Romney's way is nonsensical.
To answer the three questions posed, "Did the President keep his promises? Have his policies helped and made us stronger? and "Do I have confidence in him as our leader?" Yes, Yes and Yes.
Obama/Biden 2012
Jim Hatherley
2:46 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012
Will O, thanks for responding, although there is no need to be so dismissive in your tone.
Thank you for answering the questions - good job.
But, the Country is a mess these days and it is up to the people to sort through the nonsense and find ourselves a leader who can move the Country back on track. Just as you want conservatives to take a deep breath, I might recommend that you do the same. Open minds are what we need.
In fact, check out my latest blog, just posted today. Perhaps that will make you think about what we deserve from our government and if we are getting it.
All the best.
FindBalance
2:53 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012
I thought we were going to drop the subject, but if we are still talking about it…
“Wow, you can turn on any political talk radio station or Fox News and hear the same message.”
Not the point of the discussion, Will; let me summarize:
Aron: We don’t have any heavy hitters realying left-wing talking points like the right has Fox
Me: Yes you do – here are a whole bunch, and they have been around a whole lot longer than Fox [and other right-wing media].
Hope that clears it up for you, Will.
RE the country is not bankrupt – we are $15 Trillion dollars in debt, Pres Obama’s plan is to put us $5Trillion more in debt next year, we are printing money to keep up with expenses, etc. The country is not bankrupt like Greece, Span, Portugal, California,... are not bankrupt.
“The only thing bankrupt is the mind who believes such nonsense.” Please don’t resort to insulting rhetoric, especially when it is so easily debunked.
“Those links do however underscore the need for better regulation within government and business.” Who will make those regulations – the govt? Kind of a conflict of interest…
Too much govt regulation and power leads to an all-powerfull govt.
FindBalance
2:55 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012
Jim H. - Stop stealing my thunder! And stop being nicer than me about it!
Jim Hatherley
3:12 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012
Find Balance, thanks for the laugh but I am not used to people agreeing with me on my blog. Actually, this is something that I prefer because when comments come in like those from Will people on the sidelines are able to evaluate both sides of the equation and determine which sounds more reasonable. I am thinking that most people side with the person who is not yelling or nasty.
However, for Will, I can only add what FB has noted and say that if the SOTUS is so conservative, how did the abominable Obamacare make its way through? And, as to the Citizens' United case, you obviously have not read prior posts on this, or understand that the Unions have been funding the Democrats in a collusive undertaking for years - which was presumably "fair" if you are a Democrat.
Still, you answered my questions for which I said thanks. I am assuming, however, you have neither children nor grandchildren or you would not be so eager to leave the next generation with an unsustainable debt burden and diminished futures.
Jim Hatherley
2:39 pm on Monday, August 20, 2012
@Paula Leva 8:28 Thanks for your response. I get that you are an Obama supporter and you have plenty of Company. However, may i remind you that Obama did not "reach across the aisle" at all when he was elected. Instead, he used Pelosi and Reed to slam the doors on Republicans and passed Obamacare, Billion dollar stimulus bill, bailed out GM, invested $90B into solar energy etc. Is this anything but radical? I have been around for many yeas and have never seen this before ... ever.
Now, if you are an Obama supporter, I understand the context, but I believe even moderate Democrats would say his jumping ugly on the Cambridge Cop, and not so ugly on the Ft. Hood terrorist were despicable behaviors.
As to Brown, Cynth has provided the details you need to at least appear to sound fair minded. Compare that with Pelosi - "You have to pass the bill if you want to know what's in it " tactics. So, please ... and thanks for commenting.
Concerned Citizen
7:52 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012
Thank you, Cynth and Jim, for supporting my statements with facts.
arthur
8:27 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012
Everyone is worried about money - budgets, taxes, economy etc - and the news this morning reported that more than $500 Million Dollars has been spent so far... by the two parties. What does that tell you about how concerned about you? Will this be the first Billion Dollar race? It's not a campaign, it's a business.
Jim Hatherley
9:11 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012
Arthur, thanks, and isn't that a big part of this blog?
If President Obama has been such a good President he should need only list his accomplishments, explain how they have been good for America, made us stronger and better, and tell everyone that what and why about a potential 4 year extension.
Instead there are billions of dollars being spent ignoring his "accomplishments" but telling us that Mitt Romney is somehow a dishonorable person... and that he is wealthy. Left unsaid is what he would plan to do to America if given four more years.
As I have said in previous responses I choose to believe that even Massachusetts Democrats are insulted by this and will either not vote or vote for Romney. And hopefully I have used this space wisely enough to evoke a little passion among the Unenrolled voters to become better informed and equally outraged/insulted that Obama should be spending so much time, energy and money trying to convince them that he has been good for America.