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MA Dems Say Brown's Liberal Reputation Will Cost Warren Votes

In our inaugural “Blue Commonwealth" survey, influential Democrats paint an early picture for November's general election.

 

A majority of influential Massachusetts Democrats think Scott Brown's reputation of being a "liberal conservative" will cost Elizabeth Warren votes from those Massachusetts voters who usually vote Democratic: that's the main finding of Patch's Inaugural Blue Commonwealth survey.

When Patch asked if Democrats think that so far, Elizabeth Warren has effectively explained how she will push for traditional Democratic issues like women's rights, education for all and vote against corporate greed, the majority said she had.

Forty responses were collected, a majority of which agreed Brown is making inroads with traditionally Democratic voters. One hundred twenty three Massachusetts Democrats were surveyed last week in Patch’s inaugural Blue Commonwealth poll, which focused on the race for Brown's U.S. Senate seat. 

When Patch asked Democrats which traditional Democratic issue Warren should focus more on, the majority said "corporate greed." The second biggest response was "education for all" followed by "women's rights."

When asked how Warren differs from former Democratic challenger against Brown, Attorney General Martha Coakley, one respondent said:

"Elizabeth Warren has a clearer message due to her work on corporate mismanagment and greed. Martha Coakley never had solid footing on a message. Coakley's aura of being the heir apparent as a Democrat was too bright."

Another political influencer said Warren is perceived as stronger than Coakley.

"There are many differences. First, Warren's campaign is working much harder and more effectively to communicate her differences from the GOP incumbent. Second, where Coakley ran against Scott Brown's promises, Elizabeth Warren is running against his record. Brown promised independence, but once he got to the Senate, he voted with his Tea Party Republican bosses on the issues that matter to Massachusetts voters: Against creating jobs, against lowering student loan rates, against keeping Wall Street honest. Three years ago, Massachusetts voters thought Brown's barn coat was cheap and his promises were valuable -- now we know it's the other way around."

Another respondent said Warren, herself, knows the challenges of being the subject of economic inequality.

"Elizabeth Warren has been on the subject of economic inequality for 30 years, she is the foremost expert on that subject," the respondent said. "She has an amazing track record as an activist for the common man. This is the defining issue of our time. With Citizens United, unparalleled recklessness on Wall Street, onslaughts to programs like Medicare and Medicaid, we are heading toward plutocracy. Warren is the right candidate for these times because this has always been her area of focus."

But despite the overwhelming response detailing Warren's strength as a candidate this time around, one respondent said: "Having a hard time discriminating between the two."

Blue Commonwealth Survey

Our surveys are not a scientific, random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a group of influential local Democratic activists, party leaders, candidates and elected officials in Massachusetts. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in Massachusetts’ Patch surveys, although not all responded to this story’s questions. Surveys were conducted from July 13 to July 24, 2012.

Patch will be conducting Red Commonwealth and Blue Commonwealth surveys throughout the 2012 election season in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives and progressives on the ground in Massachusetts. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in periodic surveys that last just a few minutes, please contact Associate Regional Editor Katie Curley-Katzman at katherine@patch.com.

 

Blue Commonwealth Survey Roster: Richard Sidney (Natick Democratic Committee Member), Betsy Johnson (Democratic activist), Steve O'Leary (Reading Selectman), Parwez Wahid (Democratic Committee Chair), Anne Worth (Chelmsford public schools volunteer), Ron Sayer (Chelmsford public schools volunteer), Mike Coombs (web developer), Alex Buck (running for State Senate), Angie Taranto (retired teacher), James Aciero (State Rep.), George Allen (scientist), Naomi Drebeen (town democratic chair), Kevin Donaher (Boston Housing Partnership), Steve Iannaccone (public administration), Mary DeChillo (social work professor), Chris Ryder (Peabody Mayor's Chief of Staff), Tom Gould (Selectman), James Liacos (Councilor-At-Large, Peabody), Rico Mello (Peabody City Council), Artha Athas (Peabody City Council), Josh Turiel (Salem City Council), Robert McCarthy (Salem City Council), Debbie Amaral (Salem School Committee), Marsha Finkelstein (field organizer), Joan Lovely (Salem City Council), Nate Bryant (Salem School Committee), Eric Wildman (Melrose Democrat), Mike Festa (Melrose Democratic Committee), Bonnie Cronin (Melrose Democratic Committee), Bonnie Cronin (Melrose Democratic Committee), Lisa Loveland (Melrose Democrat), Deborah Giso (Obama for America), Alan Leo (Warren Campaign), Mario Portillo (democratic committee), Lizabeth DeSelm (chemist), Joseph M. Phillips (consulting broker/agent), Holly Soutter (activist), Tom Mahone (Democratic Committee Chair), Ben Tafoya (Reading Democrat), Joe Forti (Reading Democrat), Jill Onderdonk (Westwood Democrat), Mike Jaillett (Westwood Town Administrator), Michael Walsh (alternate delegate to DNC), Greg Agnew (town democratic committee), Alyssa O'Keefe (Salem Democrat), Marilyn Hazel (Danvers Democrat), Ted Speliotis (State Rep.), Christopher Gagnon (Danvers Democrat), Julie Curtis (Danvers Democrat), Norma Shulman (Framingham Democrat), Phil DeCologero (North Andover Democrat), Mark DiSalvo (North Andover official), Bobby McCarthy (North Andover Democrat), Tricia Melvin (North Andover Democrat), Tom Devin (Braintree School Committee), Steve May (state senate candidate), Marcia Hirshberg (Westwood town committee), John Stefanini (Framingham Democrat), Chris Walsh (Framingham state rep.), Bob Berman (state elected delegate), Elisa Alviza (elected delegate), Anne Cohen (Democrat), Marcia Sweeney (Democrat), Renee Keaney (Democrat), Marilyn Segal (Democrat), Phil Sweeney (Democrat), Walter Horan (Democrat), David Gray (Tewksbury Selectman), Mike Hugo (state delegate), Charlie Sirstisky (state delegate), Barry Finegold (senator), Michael West (blogger), Susanna Sturgis (activist), Richard Knabel (selectman), Tristan Israel (selectman), Genevieve Davis (senate candidate), Dick Duggan (Democrat), Shawn Fitzgibbons (NDCC Chair), Margaret Albright (NDCC Vice Chair-Ward 2), Charlie Shapiro (Governor's Council candidate), Barbara John (Newton city committee), Janet Sterman (Newton city committee), Joe Lawless (Democrat), Tim LeCam (Democrat), Patricia Dunphy (Democrat), Anne Jarek (Democrat), Jeanne E. Craigie (retired teacher), Stas Gayshen (Democrat convention), Jon Saxton (town committee), Michael Gilbreath (town committee), Steve Owens (town committee), David Leon (Democrat), Susan Falkoff (Town Councilor), Richard Marcus (Steering Committee co-chair), Kelly Durkee Erwin (Aide to Sen. Fargo), Thomas Stanley (state rep.), Bob Gonsalves (professor, poet, activist), Chuck Viola (former alderman candidate), Jay Harney (Alderman, DNC),  James Lewis (state rep.), Laura Richter (legal aide), Ted Hess-Mahan (Alderman), Nancy Arents (Democrat), Michael Capuano (state rep.), Joseph Curtatone (Mayor of Sommerville), Patricia Jehlen (state sen.), Denise Provost (state rep.), Dennis Naughton (Foxborough town committee), Jeremy Denlea (Attleboro City Council), Wiliam Rice (Seekonk Democratic Committee), Jim Humphrey (Democrat), John Davis (former city councilor), Martha Sanders (activist), Joe Demers (Democrat).

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Bob Weir

8:59 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Sure, this was a fair and unbiased article. Author must work for the Globe as well.

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Danielle Horn

9:01 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Hi, Bob - this is a story about how Democrats responded to Patch surveys: we ran the results of the Republican surveying earlier this month: http://grafton.patch.com/articles/commonwealth-gop-believe-romney-needs-to-explain-health-care-39c958b6

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Jim Rizoli

12:29 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Mass. is a lost cause what can I say. The bluest of the blue states, and it shows in what is going on here.
Imagine a state being run by criminals who have come and gone. Elizabeth Warren is all they could get to run against Brown? When you have to scape the bottom of the barrel this is what you get.
Take a good look to see what this state has turned into and you are proud to be a Democrat? Not that the Republicans are any better.....all are controlled by the same people. I never saw such a ball of corruption. You're running the Town, and the State into the ground and the people just smile and let it happen.
Pretty sad!
Jim@ccfiile.com

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John Sullivan

1:26 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Jim - Think of any reliably red state, really any of your choice, and just compare the vital statistics to that of Massachusetts. For example, compare educational metrics, percent without health insurance, percent of children vaccinated, infant mortality rate, whatever, and see how ANY of the red states compare to the "bluest of the blue" in your words. Our unemployment rate is lower than national average. Our 4th and 8th grade reading scores are the highest in the nation. No other state has a lower percent of people without health insurance. If you think things are bad here, trying living in Alabama. Seriously. I encourage you to try it.

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FindBalance

5:53 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

All because the state is taking care of us. Much of that is true in Venezuala, too, but I wouldn't want to live there. I think Pink Floyd said it best:
"O.K.
Just a little pin prick
There'll be no more aaaaaaaah!
But you may feel a little sick
...
The child [our society] is grown
The dream is gone
I... Have become comfortably numb"

UglyHat

1:11 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I sort of agree that this article compliments Warren much more than the red state article did for Romney. That article seemed focused on concerns while this one is much more fawning. But I think the premise, or at least the headline is accurate. Brown is a centrist and will take some D votes.

In fact he has the support of ex-Boston Mayor Ray Flynn (D), and super-progressive NY Mayor Bloomberg. Hopefully democrat voters will follow.

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Ed Curtis

1:26 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I can't for the life of me see why so many Massachusetts citizens continue to vote always with Democratics. I have been a registered independent for many years now, but I lean toward the Republican party. I cannot understand why Mass. voters still continue to support the Democratic party. Their leaders have no specific plans, they have no platform, no purpose, they vote no on almost every issue that could provide jobs for the US citizens that have been unemployed for one of the longest period in history. Check the voting records of our Congressmen and Senators; they all get together and vote no on everything. They are wasting our time and money. Also the Senate, Republicans and Democratics hasn't come up with a budget for over three years. They shouldn't have been allowed to get a pay check during that amount of time. Also if they, the politicians voted on issues that included their own asses, they would also vote on issues in a more positive way. Actually, they might even read the bills before they vote on them.

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Elsa Aviza

4:20 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Jim please think about relaxing a little. You are always MR. doom and gloom,Mr.negativity. It is bad for your heart. If you did not think Massachusetts was a great place to live you would have left long ago. And Ed statistics show that those who claim to be independents usually vote 99 % of the time with one party. So independent is a loosely used term. Basically they are Democrats or Republicans. The Democrats always have a strong platform which you can read anytime. You just don't like their platform most likely. Massachusetts is number one in education,has the lowest unemployment rate,healthcare for all thanks to our leadership. I am curious how Scott Brown's recent vote against keeping the tax cuts for the middle class will affect you. As you state the records are there for all of us to read.

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Sue Mathieu

4:20 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Elizabeth Warren has a clear vision for our state and the country. She.does not need notes or a TelePrompTer to "remember" what her stance on an issue is. Brown claims to be bi-partisan but look at his voting record. If compromise were not a dirty word perhaps some progress could be made, but with nordquist's pledge, the tea party, and the republican party having a primary goal of making Obama a one term president the odds are against it. The false claim that the republican party is only focused on jobs, jobs, jobs is very easy to debunk. How many infrastructure bills have they voted for. Anyone who is paying attention knows their focus is on legislating morality aka abortion rights. Their other big focus is voter suppression. How anyone can say with a straight face the push for voter id laws has anything to do with voter fraud needs to get their head out of the sand. We need honesty and integrity in our representative but since most of them are bought and paid for by special interests and are petrified of NRA, The Tea Party, and Christian Right etc., the prospect of this happening are slim to none. Elizabeth Warren is her own person and fearless. She is a breath of fresh air.

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FindBalance

5:45 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Sue - I agree that Prof Warren has a clear vision for MA and America - more govt intervention, over-regulation, and creating unsustainable jobs through govt spending. I am glad Senator Brown voted against infrastructure bills (wasn't it Pres Obama who admitted there were no shovel-ready jobs, anyway); those jobs are unsustainable and a burden to taxpayers.
Your characterization of R's falsely claiming to be focused on jobs is incomplete – they are focused on jobs created by the private sector – something the D’s have been stonewalling since Obama became President.
If you really want to be honest, this is one of the clear distinctions between Warren and Brown – Warren believes in govt solutions to everything, Brown believes in people and free enterprise.
RE R’s legislating morality aka abortion rights – that’s the right to murder a defenseless unborn baby; I think you can at least see that is a reasonable argument on the other side of “pro-choice”.
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FindBalance

5:45 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

(continuation...)
RE voter suppression – another twisted view. This is really protecting the integrity of the vote of every qualified voter. States have bent over backwards to accommodate people so they can prove they are qualified voters, so disenfranchising voters is not really an issue. For the people who you believe will be discouraged from voting because they have to get (only one time) and show a valid ID to vote – don’t they owe fellow citizens at least an effort to do that? That’s about as minimal a thing they can do, so if they won’t make that effort, then what you are saying is that they have no civic obligation at all to their fellow citizens.
RE you want honesty and integrity in our rep – and you believe Prof Warren has any of either of these? With her Indian heritage issue (if you are telling Harvard you are of minority heritage for the kind of position she was applying for, you better be sure of that heritage), and fudging the data in her report on medical bankruptcies? I have to disagree…

Ed Bertorelli

4:20 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Well John Sullivan-thousands of former Mass residents have done exactly what you suggested and moved to states like Florida, the Carolinas, Georgia, Texas, Arizona,California. If we didn't 'amp' our census figures with illegals we would have lost another Congressman in the 2010 census. We have gone from 12 Congressman to 9 over the past decades. I seriously wonder at the ratio of Mass residents who work in the private sector as compared to the Mass residents who work for some form of government including education.

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Jim Rizoli

5:45 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Elsa...Doom and gloom....I just tell the truth. It is what it is. If you want to believe the B/S being pushed upon you good luck.
Maybe you can tell us about the Dems platform.....Last time I checked they were in favor of illegal aliens, and everything they stood for. 1. Giving them licenses to drive. 2. The right to vote 3. In State tuition. Nice! Are you kidding me?
I have the video to prove it below, which they do their best to take off the web, when former State Rep Pam Richardson layed it all out a few years back before she was un ceremoniously voted out for her traitorous rant.
https://vimeo.com/5212313
The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves!
You can't make this State a better State with politicians like this. Thank God she's out, but deep inside they still go by this platform unless you can prove me wrong.
Jim@ccfiile.com

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David Nolta

12:57 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Jim, you're still doing it... That thing you do, pretending that all Democrats are alike, and they all do what you say they do, and then pretending that you're onto them, and they should all be ashamed. And then that the Republicans are the same, and they are all "controlled by the same people." So I'm popping up to remind you that people are individuals--even illegal immigrants are individual human beings!!--and they act differently from one another, and have unique stories, problems, faults, qualities. And until you accept that all people are individuals, and cannot be grouped and stereotyped just because that makes it easier for you to dismiss and insult them, you will never convince anybody of anything, ever. Thank goodness.

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FindBalance

3:12 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

David - The Dems that make the rules (by which we all have to live) do all vote alike (whatever the leadereship wants them to vote), despite being individuals, so in that way they *are* all alike. That's because the leadership in this state has rigged it so they (the leadership) have all the power over the rest of the legislature; that's not representative at all.

Dave Lenane

11:25 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Vote for the right person and not the right party! Too many peoplejust vote for what they are registered as, or what they have heard each party represents!

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Elsa Aviza

11:25 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Jim you are a hopeless cause face it! As Shakespeare once said "You dost protest too much." We have a great legislative delegation past and present. I am proud to be from Framingham.

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Jim Rizoli

10:38 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Elsa....I notice you didn't mention anything about the Treasonous platform of the Democratic party. I guess that is not an issue with you.
Maybe for all those here you can state your position to it.
Do you agree with it?
Jim@ccfiile.com

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Jim Rizoli

10:38 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Elsa...What's hopeless is the state our town and country is in.
The Dems have run it into the ground. The reason I blame the Dems is because they are the ruling party. Since they are in control they have to take the hit.
Jim@ccfiile.com

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milfordman

10:38 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Well, then that's a benefit not a bug. Let's keep Fauxchontas at Harvard.

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arnold

1:40 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

One only need look at the occupation of the overwhelming majority of folks who responded to the survey to understand why the democrat machine is running the taxpaying members of society into poverty - there hardly a hand-full of individuals who are privately employed the bulk are GOVERNMENT parasites or public fund seeking leeches.

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